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Thompson’s Live: Episode 6 (3rd December 2012)

December 4th, 2012

So all too soon we've reached the last of this present series of podcasts from Chris Goode & Company, focusing on theatre and performance, poetry and music, arts and ideas.

The conversation this time is even longer than usual, and yet as ever there's so much more that could have been said: particularly as, unusually, we had a single topic to focus on: namely, the current state of writing for (and not for) theatre.

The three brilliant guests who joined us to think through some of the questions around this strangely fraught territory were:

Chris Campbell, Literary Manager, Royal Court Theatre

Dan Rebellato, Professor of Contemporary Theatre, Royal Holloway University of London

Francesca Lisette, poet

There's also an amazing, longer-than-usual set from Francesca at the end, which you won't want to miss.

There'll be one more episode before the end of the year -- a kind of Christmas bonus, not recorded at STK and not taped before an audience, but still full of big ideas and good conversation -- which should come out around December 18th.

In the meantime, thanks to everyone at the Airport, everyone's who's come along to listen and contribute, and above all our eighteen fantastic guests.


  • Serpentine Hatch

    That poet may be excellent but she’s really not up to speaking fluently in front of an audience about work in a way that doesn’t deeply disengage me. Full of strained lyricism, ums ahs and rising intonations. And why start off with all this stuff that NO one except her and Goode understand.

    Dec 4, 2012 at 10:19 pm
  • chrisgoodeandco

    Many thanks for taking the trouble to comment.

    I’m sorry you don’t find Francesca — I’m not sure why you refer to her as “that poet”: given that her name is listed, it seems needlessly discourteous, but never mind — engaging, or ‘not deeply disengaging’ to borrow your own formulation. I suspect some people will agree with you and others will strongly disagree. I certainly find her engaging — I wouldn’t have invited her otherwise — and those present at the recording seemed to like and appreciate her work: which is not to say that both the poetry and her commentary on it don’t make unusually robust demands.

    I don’t know that I value fluency as highly as I do thoughtfulness. Mainstream media formats seem to be full of people who are wonderfully fluent and never really say anything. I’m rather glad that the podcast creates a space in which people can think carefully about what they’re saying, and maybe even stumble a bit as they’re saying it, like human beings often do.

    To say that “NO one” except Francesca and myself are capable of understanding the “stuff” we’re talking about is, as you must surely know, a needlessly aggressive, hyperbolic and incorrect statement. But I don’t think there’s any contrary expectation that everyone listening to the podcast will find everything discussed in it easy or palatable. These conversations may have difficult or daunting moments where everyone involved is enjoying trying to share complex ideas. Rather than dismissing those efforts, some listeners to the podcast might prefer to ask questions in this comment field, or do a little further reading for themselves, or send a friend the link to the podcast and ask whether they have any light to shed. This is a podcast that’s made in a spirit of wanting us all to think more intrepidly about the art we use and the culture we live in; it’s up to our listeners to decide whether that’s a challenge they’re interested to accept.

    Dec 4, 2012 at 10:51 pm